Friday, May 16, 2008

A PRESENT FOR JOHNK

*Repost due to a mysterious bug in the formatting that would not link to a larger version of the composite*

There are at least two men that John Kricfalusi gets a boner for. One is actor  Kirk Douglas. The other is Animation director Bob Clampett. Neither are kept a secret as JohnK himself will profess his love for Kirk's rippling back muscles, or give his visage  exposure in his cartoons and on multiple characters, even to the detriment of that cartoon]. Or liberal use of Clampett's characters in music videos he has done. Not to mention the stalking of his favourite animation director [ironic as he seems less than please to have Ren and Stimpy appreciators* on his website, let alone his front lawn]. But nevermind all the politics. I made this for Mr. Krickfalusi.
 It's obviously not done with menace, and does not include his current girlfriend in it at all. So please, no deranged rants from anyone, especially from JohnK's Ex-wife. And without further ado [I don't do ado, no ado do I do, to do ado is too much doo-doo ©crsP], I present to you John Kricfalusi and Bob Clampett's daughter - JohnBob!
I might do one for you if you have access to a link of yourself and the person you want to have a child with. Try to take or use a photo of you that matches the pose of your beau - i.e. if they are facing slightly left, do the same. I will provide a small version of the results for free [about the size of the preview here, maybe larger], but if you want large, then we could make a deal. A deal wherein you pay me an obscene amount of money. Things you could make from it include, mugs, T-shirts, genital tattoos, the sky's the limit.

*non-young ladies and girls

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85 Comments:

Blogger david santos said...

I loved this post and this blog.
Have a nice day

5/16/2008 11:19:00 AM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

sup man could you send me an email? i wanna ask you somethin

thanks!
-ryan

5/19/2008 11:10:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

david santos, thanks, although it seems like you just want me to go to your site. It worked. By the way, I should point out for people reading that it's just a coincidence that a guy from an anti-pedophile website has commented on my post relating to JohnK. No way I could have planned that - hehehehe

ryan, if it's the same question I get from the ladies, then the answer is no, I do not use any shampoo on my pubes - they just have a natural gloss. if on the off chance it's something else, I've sent an email at the address on your website.

5/21/2008 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

You insult my God (Bob) ? and My Demi-God (John)? I SMITE THEE !!!!!!!! Nah, I am just kiddin'. ;)

5/21/2008 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

You will one day have a rosy red print in the shape of my hand on your shriveled cowardly talentless nut job face.

5/28/2008 02:47:00 PM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

You will one day have a rosy red print in the shape of my hand on your shriveled cowardly talentless nut job face.

Why do you always threaten people with violence? Is that your only way of solving problems?

5/30/2008 10:11:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

pcunfunny, it's at least some comfort that one of JohnK's most fervent fanboys, and contributor to the conservatory he's building onto his mansion, sees this as the gift it was. Unfortunately John Kricfalusi hasn't thanked me, so we should assume he doesn't like it.

Vincent Waller, will this 'rosy red print' be anything like the blue bruising in the shape of JohnK's scrotum that's on your chin? Where do you get your strange ideas about me from? 'Shriveled'? How so? 'Cowardly''? I'm not the one leaving anonymous comments on peoples website. That would be you, Madame hypocrite. 'Talentless'? Well, we all know from that comic that your talent spotting abilities are almost non-existant. Strange how you keep coming to my website, though you deem me as 'talentless'. Note that I stop looking at you site long before that comic was published. I have good reasons, and certainly they're bearing many fruit at this point. Is it that you wouldn't extend a [justified] good comment to me in case you come to 'almost regret it' in the future? I see right through you. you're a slimy turd. You insult Ryan's friends then you go to their website and and suck up to them. What a two-faced cheese ball. Been reading up on Sun Tzu have you? The ol' divide and conquer eh? Well, aren't you a learned fellow. I bet you wear big boy pants now. Why must you exercise your jealous rage on myself and Bob Camp? You have issues. Now for you to write an article praising Bob Camp, eh?

See it?
SUCK IT!

ryan, I have a theory that maybe he has the wife-beater gene. Since he has no wife, all that's left is to beat on his dick. 12 seconds later he still has the rage in him.

6/08/2008 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger Freshyfresh said...

Vincent: Seriously, you are really scary! Please calm down and take it easy!

Crsp: LOL! I LIKE IT!:D

6/13/2008 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Just give me a name and an address you cowardly piece of shit that dropped out of your mom's ass (or maybe it was your dad's)and was mistaken for a human.
I don't post anywhere under any name but mine.

6/15/2008 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

crsp: I never hate a poke at John as long as it's funny.

6/16/2008 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

Arschblog, phew - at least SOMEONE likes it! More planned. Top secret, keep it under your hat.

Vincent Waller,

Name: crsP
Address: http://xtracrsp.blogspot.com/

I'm assuming that's what you want. You can't possibly be calling me a coward and want to fight me by coming to my house. If you want a fight post your home address here, you cowardly bully. I have proof of your anonymous posts so you can drop the act. And I would suggest you ask around, and stop assuming that just because you stick your dick up arses doesn't mean that babies will come from them.

PCUnfunny, I don't see the image as a poke at johnK [maybe a suggestion of homosexual relationship - but only to those that read way too much into it]. It's like Bob Clampett's Horton cartoon. In the end the egg hatches with a half elephant, half bird. I don't think people will believe that Horton raped that bird.

6/17/2008 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very funny post

6/17/2008 10:22:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Continue hiding in the dark. Enjoy looking at your cowardly pathetic face every morning in the mirror.

6/17/2008 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vincent, why do you keep coming here?

6/18/2008 12:58:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

When Im slandered, people tend to tell me about it.

All I ask is that people not post anything in regard to me, that they wouldn't say to my face.
This cowardly piece of crap wouldn't in a thousand years say any of this shite to my face. Not because I'm a bully, but because he is a sniveling lowlife coward in search of attention.

Well you have my attention.

6/18/2008 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You need to see a psychiratrist

6/18/2008 10:07:00 AM  
Blogger crsP said...

mr inbetweeny, that's my mission - to bring the fun and laughter to all the boys and girls! tee-hehe

6/18/2008 02:06:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

vincent waller said...
"Continue hiding in the dark."

You realise that I'm not Batman, don't you Prunesquallor? And yes, I do get some enjoyment at looking upon my face, from time to time. However it's neither 'cowardly' nor 'pathetic'. I believe you're comments are for the man in the mirror. And I don't mean Michael Jackson.

What is this 'slander' and who are the 'people' that told you about it? You are a liar and you continue to lie. I would have no problems saying it 'to your face' if you were to ask my opinion in that regard. You're a hypocrite and a bully. It is you who slander me with your poor interpretation of human biology. And with your poor attempt at humour you insult my parents. Just like you accused Ryan Khatam's mother of being 'evil' if she didn't agree with your fictitious accusations against him as well as such luminaries as Bob Camp and myself, to name just a few [of the more talented].

Drop the 'All I ask, all I ever truly wanted was to be understood and to fit in...' bullshit faux victim act. You came to my site with all sorts of insults and chest-puffing and expect me to not respond? What is your major malfunction Prunesquallor? To answer mr inbetweeny's question, you're here for the entertainment I provide. I bring joy to your heart with my words and pictures. You probably want to pOoP out one of my babies. You'll be disappointed to read that I'm only interested in genuine women. Female impersonators don't cut the mustard for me.

6/18/2008 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Crsp: If you don't mind me asking, what did Vicent say about Bob Camp ?

6/18/2008 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

I would have no problems saying it 'to your face'

Prove it.

You won't.

You'll hem and haw and change the subject and try to draw other people in as a distraction.
By the by, you aren't fit to put yourself even into a sentence with Bob Camp.
Everyone can see (all ten of them) that you have a serious case of alligator mouth coupled with a tadpole ass.

You're going to continue to sit in the dark rolling and throwing your lil'balls of shit that you call thoughts.
You will go to sleep a shitty little coward and you will wake up a shitty little coward.
That you will remain your entire and pathetic life knowing you don't dare step into the light.

6/18/2008 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Shitty Little Coward.

6/18/2008 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Vincent: I am with Steffi. You are starting to scare me buddy. Surely there is no need to be this angry at crsp ?

6/18/2008 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vincent, like I said before, you need to see a psychiatrist, make a booking today.And start to work on developing a sense of humour as well.That is all.

6/18/2008 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Yes good morning to you too,Mr. Whoever you are. One wonders how well developed your sense of humor would be if it were you being attacked.

Meanwhile Mr.Stepup still hasn't stepped up. Even though he says he doesn't have problem saying to my face. He is still hiding in the dark, like the coward he is, and will continue to be.
Have as great a day.

6/19/2008 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....Sigh

6/19/2008 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vinnie,go to this address.

Dr. Inessa Essaian
2211 W Magnolia Blvd Ste 100
Mcla Psychiatric Medical Group
Burbank, CA

6/19/2008 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Hey, that's my Doc!Are you following me?;)

Hmmm still no face to face.
Still a sniveling coward.

6/19/2008 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

PCUnfunny, just as he accused Ryan Khatam, so did he implicate myself and Bob Camp in his fantasy girl-bashing gang. It's all in his comments over at that comic. Our crime? We thought the comic was funny and pointed out the good stuff. How wicked of us.

As for you, Prunesqaullor, what manner of fantasies do you concoct now? You being attacked? You are the one who's implying he'll attack me. I will always defend myself, even at cowardly bullies such as yourself. You say you'll do this and that, but I'm the coward for not posting my home address to the world? I suppose you would think you're a better fighter than Muhammed Ali, if you said you were going to do what it is you do [I'm guessing licking his balls] and he doesn't invite you over for a round of drinks? Thus making him a coward?! You are illogical and something of an idiot.

I'm not in the dark. On the contrary, it's been a lovely sunny day. Birds singing. All that good stuff. Yes I would tell you to your face that you are a liar, which you are, and a hypocrite, and a bully. Why would I not? What's the big deal? If you asked is what I said. And I said it because I'm not in the habit of approaching people and blurting out their flaws. However when the subject comes up I'm willing to let them know, as usually they're not even aware of it. But you lie so frequently, you can't possibly not be aware of it. Despite that, bring it up in conversation and I will tell you straight. Anyone that gets involved would likely be nodding in agreement. You've built your life on grovelling and shmoozing, so you may not fully comprehend a person such as myself. Your fantasy of me inviting you over to tell you something as blatant as the nose on your maxfactor foundationed face to prove to you [and who are you?] that I would do so is more than a little odd. You're trying to manipulate as per usual. You want to show that I wont do it because I haven't. By that logic someone could prove that you have a cock in your arse, as you have not shown your cock-less arse to prove it.

6/19/2008 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

More chickenshit side stepping.
Born a coward, still a coward.

6/19/2008 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Crsp: Okay I was going over Vincent's comments on the post in question, I didn't see any attack at Bob. Could you possibly find a quote if it's not too much trouble ?

6/19/2008 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"More chickenshit side stepping.
Born a coward, still a coward."

do you mean you are trying to arrange a fist-fight with Crsp? lol!!.Have you ever beaten up anybody? please tell us, was it one of those Spumco guys you used to work with?

6/20/2008 04:02:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Tell you what Mr.In, if you have a question slide over to my blog,use your real and true name,and I'll be glad to answer.
Mean while I am here, and will be here to remind the crspie COWARD that he is a liar and coward, he says he'd be happy to step up.
But he won't he doesn't have the
balls to spout his lies to my face.

With every day that passes you prove yourself to be a low sniveling coward.

I'm really enjoying watching your cowardly squirming.

6/20/2008 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my real name is Alex Roberts, why does that matter?

6/20/2008 07:49:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

I think a conversation is best held on a level playing field. When you know who I am, I know who you are, we can have civil conversation.
Rather than the sniping and lies that the crispie coward is spouting behind the safety of his pseudonym.
If you want to know more, feel free to pop by my blog. Its a very civil, and I've been told an entertaining place, where I don't waste peoples time slandering others.

6/20/2008 08:07:00 AM  
Blogger crsP said...

Level playing field Prunesquallor?! There's no comment moderation going on here, which cannot be said for your website. And 'civil'? Forgetting threatening a young boy and his family because he made a drawing of your girlfriend dumping you for Spongebob? Oh yes, how inflamatory. Spongebob. Well I never...SPONGEBOB?! How could he depict a fictional character standing next to your girlfriend? Oh the humanity!!! Oh but you've deleted any trace of that. Ignorance must be your bliss.

But now we see your real issue. Jealousy. Get you trying to WHORE on my site for comments on yours HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

*cough*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


Or maybe you want his ip address like you and your anonymous buddy [you don't seem to mind anonymity when it's crawling up your butt right?] were collecting of the kid you threaten.
I already exposed what you're trying to do asshole. You don't go threatening people and expect them to have to prove themselves. You've got it backwards dipshit. Speaking of shit, what is your obsession with faecal matter? We know you love the chunky peanut butter.

Lay off of myself, Robert Clampett, Charles Jones,Frederick Avery or even Michael Kricfalusi for using a pseudonym of our name. It's getting old and you've not made a point.

I will tell you to your face what I think of you. It's nothing for a man like me. A real man. Not a fake never want to grow up Captain Hook like yourself, who wouldn't even answer a simple question as how old you were because you've got psychological issues. You're jealous of my maturity and ability to still be playfully youthful and witty, like Peter Pan, but with silky pubes. Don't pretend anyone sent you here. you've been stalking me ever since you found my site through that comment on the comic post over at Ryan Khatam's site. You want a face-full of my crsP cream. But you wont get my ambrosia, it's just not for men, you dig? Keep dreaming.

And now for a final parting sentence of this comment:

[New Paragraph] crsP and Bob Camp [fullstop]

6/20/2008 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Ha! Oh you're taking about BoBo. Another fellow that like your Cowardly self, used a pseudonym to attack me and yes my girlfriend in a public forum.
I have no idea how old he was, as if that made any difference at all. But I do know he learned that you don't slander people in public.
A lesson you'd do well to learn.

Keep spewing your lies and slander. I have no problem coming here every day to remind you that you are both a Liar and Coward.

Keep spewing. I really enjoy watching you try to distract folks from your cowardice.

You have my undivided attention. Dance Monkey, Dance!
No one hears your tune, because your tune is a lie.

Happy Friday......coward.

6/20/2008 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

PCUnfunny, I was going to explain more but because I had so many unexpected comments, I had to summarise. But I was making a point that of which, Vincent Waller, realising he was losing his piss-poor argument that 'Ryan Khatam was attacking girls' expanded his lies to include those who found Ryan's comic funny as part of Ryan's alleged 'gang'. At that time I had only posted my thoughts on the comic and was slightly miffed at the allegation. One that he repeated on other websites. It is quite obvious now that he is not one to see reason, but only wishes to 'win' a discussion by lying, threatening, and generally being a boring guy. But I thought reason I could. And since it was, at the time, myself, JJhunsecker, and Bob Camp were the only ones who came into support of the comic [as opposed to their personal views on the people involved], I thought that maybe he would see reason that his lie encapsulate Bob Camp into the proceeding, and he might possibly stop his fictitious ramblings. If you read Bob Camp's comment, it is similar in nature to mine in pointing out what technical aspects we liked and made the comic work as hilarious as it was.

Prunesquallor may [undeservedly] not show any respect towards me, but I knew he wouldn't say anything against Bob Camp. Even if he had issues with him, because Prunesquallor is a conniving industry groveller. For proof, read what he said to those in support of the comic in the comment section. Go to their site and check out the bum-chummery he leaves on their posts. It's like Hilary Clinton, who's spent many months bad mouthing Barack Obama, but now she got her arse kicked, she wants to be his vice president. Trying to completely forget her previous smear campaign. Because neither Hillary nor Prunesquallor, has anyone's best interest but their own. Both will step on whoever to get where they want. Both are completely insincere in their approach.

6/20/2008 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

Prunesquallor, you're making yourself look more pathetic with each post. you say you have 'no idea' how old the guy was, but it was very obvious from his drawing and from his comment that, 'you should give some money to JohnK now that you have more than he' [which made me laugh, and is blatantly a silly notion]. You left a comment on his site, so you also saw the few articles posted. You would have seen his formular one and football player posts, and no one would be in any doubt that this was a juvenile into cars and sports stars like many are. You having 'no idea' either means you're being insincere [likely] or a fucking idiot [also likely]. You're so paranoid you probably thought we were one in the same. Oh how you wish I didn't point out your hypocrisy in that comic post. But it was clear to see. You got hurt and you come here to insult my glorious artistic [multi] talents. Anyone would think a rational human being would not come to a "talentless" artiste website for entertainment.

Of course you have no problem coming here. You've been a regular for a while now. You're such a fanboy, and you try to disguise it by claiming someone told you you were being 'slandered'! HAHAHA a Post on JohnK to present a pic I thought he'd find funny. Yet, here's Prunesquallor, playing the victim and trying to hog other people's limelight. No changes. Ever thought of just making your own cartoon? You might get some fans that aren't JohnK's sloppy second groupies.

You come to my site, remember. You post on my articles. I write, you comment. I draw, you admire. Stop lying to yourself.

Who am I distracting? I've responded to all commentators [including yourself] on the subject they brought up. Is there hope for you Prunesquallor?

And PCUnfunny, if you need anymore proof of Prunesquallor's insincerity, just look at his parting phrase's to those he supposedly doesn't like. [he secretly wants me]

6/20/2008 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

After hearing what happened through David. I did indeed agree that my good friend John was being an asshole when he hurt Ryan's feelings, while putting David in the bad spot of wanting to defend his friend but not being able to sort out how to do that. I can Imagine how hard that was on both of them.
I only wish that Ryan would have given me the complete story right away, rather than giving it to me in drips and drabs. Making me guess what happened. I think had I been given the full story upfront we wouldn't have had nearly the dust up we had.
I still think going after John's Girlfriend was not the right response. But that's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.She has proven to be a great talent, that will be a real asset to the world of
entertainment.

Then there is you. It seems pretty obvious that unlike the rest of us that occasionally have asshole moments, you are a full time dyed in the wool asshole.

Long after everyone has moved on you choose to attack me out the blue. You will find that I give as good as I get. But unlike you I don't hide behind a pseudonym to do it.
Crspie says:"Look at me. I can say anything I want, I'm so braaaave" Unfortunately for you, it comes across in a falsetto.
You are a coward, and that is mock bravery you're sporting there chief.

A true embarrassment to your self.

Keep dancing I'm enjoying it.

6/20/2008 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vincent, I just use the title "mr inbetweeny" because my real name is boring, no big deal, Im not scared of you.

From your posts,various animator's blogs, and ones from those on the Animation Nation board from those who have worked with John.K, that it seems the Spumco world disappointingly seems fairly dark and negative, and has tarnished my enjoyment of Ren and Stimpy.

6/20/2008 08:56:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Alex I wouldn't think you have any reason to be scared of me.

Sorry you feel your past comedy enjoyment was tainted by what ever you read.
It seems odd that you find attacks on real people funny. But you seem completely put off by those people responding to being attacked.

Luckily there are plenty of funny things out there for you, and some of them aren't dark.
I personally am looking forward to enjoying the new George Liquor shows that John is currently producing.

Happy Trails

Meanwhile The Crisper remains a coward.

6/21/2008 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sorry you feel your past comedy enjoyment was tainted by what ever you read.
It seems odd that you find attacks on real people funny. But you seem completely put off by those people responding to being attacked."

Hi Vincent,I wouldn't call this post an "attack" ok yes pretty cheeky, and what I was put off is how vicious you seem in response, not by the fact you are responding to the post,if you did it in a humorous way that made fun of Crsp-id be all for it,and as you said it's just a blog with a few people visiting, so I dont know why you would get so angry over it,I would have thought being a working professional you were above that kind of thing.You are probably different in real life,and could be a friendly person and might just use the internet to let off some steam,I just don't know.

And the thing I have read a lot is that John.K treats the people that work for him like dirt, at first I thought it was just other people being jealous, but it came up again and again, which IF it is true, I don't think employers should or have the right to act like that, and John.K with the talent he has should know better.And if it isn't true why would a bunch of people all say the same thing? John.K makes good cartoons so why would a group of people conspire together to make up lies? Again Im going off what I have read, I dont live in LA, so my views aren't set in stone, im open minded about things like this and just always just want to find out the truth about things.I would actually be relieved to find out Spumco is not like that.I obviously wouldn't have read about these things if I wasn't a fan.

Alex

6/21/2008 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS. if Kricfalusi is as constantly abusive as David Gemmil says he is and you are defending him no matter what just to advance your career, that is really spineless and machiavellian.

6/21/2008 07:47:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

First, John is one of my friends. I'm not defending him to advance my career. My career is doing just fine. I don't think many of the people that have worked with John regret working with him. I doubt they'd go back and change it if they could. He can be a seriously hard task master and he can be very blunt. There were times when he was going over my drawings that I would think to myself "You say one more thing and I'm going to knock you off that chair" But what I found was that after telling me all the things that were wrong with my drawings he would then show me what was right, and how to make the drawing better. I found him to be one of the best teachers out there. Willing to show you over and over again until you get it. Sometime during production that task can be very frustrating. I have been on both sides of that equation. It is really hard after telling someone how to do something the third or fourth time when you have deadlines looming over your shoulder not to be short with them. Many times I have just taken whatever it was and done it myself. In the production of a show you don't always have time to do that. It can be maddening. I don't know a show runner (I've worked with a few)that hasn't through frustration with trying to get things done the way the feel they need to be done, hurt someones feeling. A few someones in fact.
Some show runners are more socially adept than others. I think John has gotten much better over the years.
I think most of the people that worked for John came a away better cartoonist, stronger draftsmen and
better storytellers because of it.

6/21/2008 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why do animators say he is kind of nasty ? Is it because he is a bit too blunt at times and some animators being artists are overly sensitive to criticism ?

Ren and Stimpy is at heart a good natured and humourous show, and I was kind of perplexed from what I read from some LA animators--basically saying that that a supposedly villainous character made it,but it obviously sounds like it isn't true.

If he is just a little socially inept and truly harbors no malevolence towards his employees,that is really good to hear.You shouldnt bother defending him on blogs because it kind of comes off as if youre covering up something, rather than looking out out a friend who is a bit rough around the edges.The truth in these matters always comes out in the end so I wouldnt get so angry or concern yourself over what anyone says if it isnt true.

6/21/2008 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger crsP said...

Putting random sentences in quotation marks doesn't mean I wrote them nor said them, Hilary. It doesn't take bravery to defend yourself against an ass-bandit spouting off threats. I do it naturally. So suck on it.

You're still lying up till now. Geez. And now it's all Ryan's fault that you jumped to those ridiculous conclusions, calling his behaviour towards women into question and calling his mother evil?! You are such a clown. Not a funny circus clown. Just an ass clown. Anyone needs only read the lies you put up in response to the comic to see that you would have said anything to sanctify yourself and JohnK, knowing full well he did take advantage of his position for nepotistic purposes. But you felt you had to lie and contradict yourself continually with more lies. Why? You owe your job and current career solely to Ren and Stimpy. You're riding someone else's coat tails. Yes you should be grateful that he would take time to unlearn a knuckle-headed douche like yourself from all your bad habits. But that's still no reason to lie for him. he made the wrong judgement, but it was his choice to make. You had personal issues with Ryan and used the comic as a springboard for your smear campaign. But it didn't go your way. The truth was read by all. Your rants are just getting more and more pointless now. No one is arguing about JohnK's ability or that he taught people how to animate, or whatever. But you're trying to turn this now into an anti-johnK post somehow. You're quite the worm. I suppose you want in on his upcoming cartoon. Why not just ask him? He doesn't seem to interested [unfortunately] in doing any of his own artwork, so I'm sure there's space for an expert out-sourcer of animation such as yourself to squeeze in. You can give advice on whether to use Korea, or maybe Ireland, or possibly Canada, oh the creative choices you'll have to make. Maybe that will ease the serious case of creative blue-balls that you've been saddled with for so long. Then I can get some peace.

And why, pray tell, did you think I was talking about 'David'? It's good to know that without divulging a single name, you would assume I was referring to him. My puppet Prunesquallor is an obedient one. Watch my string pulls folks. Come for the FREAK stay for the art!

6/21/2008 01:59:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

True on many fronts. Answering slanderous attacks on a blog that 10 people read is pretty much a waste of my time but A.)I have a fairly short fuse when someone goes out their way to kick my cage. B.)If slanderous attacks keeps even one young artist from working with John, that is one more slice of humor and talent that might not reach their full potential. That robs future entertainment from me and you.
Just check his site for the hours of lessons that he has taken the time to compile. Anyone can use those. You don't have to agree with his opinions about anything beyond how to make a good cartoon. You never even have to meet the man to glean years of knowledge from the lessons on his site.

During Ren and Stimpy, between seasons he didn't lay off his crews like every other studio did back then. He paid us to study cartoons, to learn how to draw better. To dissect story lines, to make us better story tellers. That would have been pocketed vacation money to most other studio heads.

Then After the first go around of Ren and Stimpy John could have walked away with a boat load of money. Not SpongeBob boat load, but a good chunk. Enough that he wouldn't have had to worry about work for years.
But instead he funneled the money back into the studio. Keeping what was left of his crew employed, and trying to further the medium of cartoons and animation.

Again this isn't about my carrer, i have a great job.

Well I see by my other screen that that guy has posted again, let me go see what dance he is doing now.

6/21/2008 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Wow . You remain an idiot and a coward. But it is funny to to watch.

6/21/2008 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

You are the idiot. I am the reporter of idiots - hence my website title. You're still coming to my site. I have no interest in yours. What does that say about you? There's no way to flip that fact. You even say I have ten people, but who' s out there whoring? I don't go to other people's site, bad mouth their work and try to poach their visitors. You insult me, you say I'm talentless, but you're here. Others come on their free will. They left a comment on my work. you don't like it, too bad. But everyone who reads your diatribe will realise how pathetic you are.

Did you get dumped? Feeling extra lonely or something? This site is where the humour and great art is at. Endorsed by Ren and Stimpy.

6/21/2008 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

More monkey dancing. You are pathetically entertaining.
And Still a full fledged unmitigated dunce full of misinformation and vile venom, as well as being the KING of cowards.
:)

6/21/2008 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger crsP said...

Keep trying to convince yourself. You're certainly not convincing others. You're still here. You're awaiting my every reply. Poor lonely Prunesquallor. Why don't you go out and chase one of those 20 years your senior hunnies that you're so proud to let everyone know? You work for me now. I have you in my pocket. Who would have thought that I would get someone who worked on Ren and Stimpy to be stalking me with their unrequited love? If only it was one of the funny ones. *Sigh*

It will get interesting when someone from television stumbles upon this site or Ryan Khatam's hysterical comic and they read your boring lies.

All you had to do if you wanted one of my fantasy photo-manipulations was to pay some hard cash. This behaviour wont get you the freebie you were looking for.

6/21/2008 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

ooo what pointed stinger. Haven't a clue what that particular prattle was about.
Really should start taken those meds. Poor prattling king of the cowards. Enjoying your cowards crown boo boo?
It looks very stylish on your pointy little head.
I don't need to convince anyone, I am now truly having a laugh.

6/21/2008 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crsp, It honestly sounds like Vincent is just looking out for a friend and not acting as a toadie like your post claims, he has his own career.It just sounds like John Kricfalusi is just a bit too blunt with people sometimes,thats all, which can piss people off because I have a friend like that.Could he really be the monster he is portrayed to be if he put his own money into training animators? It's very unlikey in my opinion.Fighting on the internet is silly anyway, it doesnt get anyone anywhere.

6/22/2008 03:16:00 AM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

Mr In betweeny. I have heard plenty upon PLENTY of stories from many many many different artists about John being a total asshole. I have also seen some of it myself. The man is a sociopath, he somehow never learned the correct way of socially interacting and dealing with others. It is almost a handicap, and on top of this handicap he has a million other handicaps in the form of gross character defects including an extreme level of immaturity (the dude is not even close to being an adult), insecurity, jealousy, paranoia, vindictiveness, egomania, being a sick pervert.

It is noble that he put money towards training artists, but dude, that's not because he's a "nice" or "decent" guy. It's because he wanted his cartoon show to be the very best that it could be (as any creator would). So, he wanted his artists, working on his cartoon, to be the very best that they could be, in order to make Ren & Stimpy the very best it could be. Get it?

Basically it was for his own benefit/Ren & Stimpy's benefit, which happened to also benefit the artists since they were learning and getting better.

The dude is a manipulative, evil ring leader. Don't be so easily persuaded by Vincent's tales of Saint Johnathon, The Sweet and Compassionate. It just aint the case.

6/22/2008 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

I only wish that Ryan would have given me the complete story right away, rather than giving it to me in drips and drabs. Making me guess what happened. I think had I been given the full story upfront we wouldn't have had nearly the dust up we had.

Vincent you are so full of crap I can see shit nuggets coming out your ears.

You are fake. You are two-faced, and I really hate two-faced people. They fall into the same category of liars, thieves and hustlers. The worst kinds of people.. the kind that cannot be trusted and have all sorts of personal agendas and ulterior motives.

You called me a prick, coward, family attacker and all sorts of other stupid shit to now go back and blame it on "not having the whole story." Please. Who are you trying to kid? Yourself? If so, stop trying. You cannot kid an insane person.

6/22/2008 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Never said John was a saint. Which one of us are?
Ryan I agreed when I heard your whole story, that he was an asshole in the way he treated you and David.
Thing is I can't name a single show creator/runner that doesn't have a plethora of horror stories about them.

Ask any of the people that I know, that worked for John, and I don't think they'd go back and change it. They all walked away with more than they arrived with.
Sure John wanted a better cartoon. But it was already popular, and most bosses would have happily pocketed the money and let us (the crew) deal with the two to four months down time on their own.

Your evil egomaniac theory doesn't cover what happened after we lost the show.

He could have walked away
a rich man(I encouraged him to do just that.) , but he chose to funnel his money back into the studio.
Not only saving what was left of his crew from having to go back to working on the drek that was then most of TV animation, but opening up the road for new talent the likes of Shane Glines, Aaron Springer, Erik Wiese, just name a few.
An evil ring leader? An evil animation ring leader, really?

From where I stand he made possible most the cool, fun, and creator driven animation we have today.

Before John, the world was all scripts all the time. The cartoonist had very little if no say in the final product.
Every artist was a just paid wrist. Nobody let cartoonists write and gag stories.

To be fair, I did just think of a show runner that I have never heard a negative story about in relation to running a show. That person is Dave Feiss and good on him. We need more like him.
But I don't think anyone would have looked twice to purchase Cow and Chicken if the road hadn't been opened for creator / board driven shows by John with Ren and Stimpy.
None of the suits at the time could even imagine that style of show being popular.
An evil ring leader? I think not, But Ryan I know I'm certainly not going to change your mind.
Happy Sunday, don't melt in the 106 temps.

6/22/2008 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Sorry Ryan,I didn't read the last bit of your post.Yes I'm saying exactly that.
Go back and read the exchange.
I kept asking you what was said, and instead of telling me straight out you ranted on vaguely about emails and things, without coming out and telling what the hell he said and when he said it. Leaving, me to try and read between the lines.
Like most good friends, I'm going to defend my friend until you show me that he has truly wronged you.
When David finally made clear exactly what happened, I agreed that what he'd done was wrong and extremely mean spirted.

I still think including his girlfriend in your attacks was uncalled for, and equally mean spirited.

Oh and in going back to make sure I wasn't crazy in my recollection of the events, or talking out of my ass. I couldn't help but notice your fine caricature of me.
If I were a lap dog I wouldn't have ever said John was wrong.
By your standards I could do the same drawing with you walking David.
Except that unlike you, I understand the difference between being a lapdog and being a good friend.

6/22/2008 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mr In betweeny. I have heard plenty upon PLENTY of stories from many many many different artists about John being a total asshole. I have also seen some of it myself. The man is a sociopath, he somehow never learned the correct way of socially interacting and dealing with others. It is almost a handicap, and on top of this handicap he has a million other handicaps in the form of gross character defects including an extreme level of immaturity (the dude is not even close to being an adult), insecurity, jealousy, paranoia, vindictiveness, egomania, being a sick pervert.

It is noble that he put money towards training artists, but dude, that's not because he's a "nice" or "decent" guy. It's because he wanted his cartoon show to be the very best that it could be (as any creator would). So, he wanted his artists, working on his cartoon, to be the very best that they could be, in order to make Ren & Stimpy the very best it could be. Get it?"

Hi Ryan,yeah I get it sadly.I dont live in LA,or even the USA, so I don't get the skinny on somewhat obscure topics like this.
I have read some pretty negative stuff about him, unfortunately your description matches the accounts ive read about him, for example humiliating people, and yelling at people for no reason (this reading accounts on animator's message boards from people who have worked with him).I was inclined to believe what Vincent said because he had worked with him for a long time and he is in his 40s and you would think when someone gets to that age they wouldn't bullshit themselves anymore about things as extreme as that, but I guess there are a lot of ass-kissers in Hollywood and low people in the world in general.It would explain why he got so viciously angry at the post, and explains why he always kisses ass on DVD commentaries/extras.Damn!, thats a shame,I liked that Ren and Stimpy show.

Apologies to Crsp,my mistake, (Crsp really is a Pointer of Truth)

6/22/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

(prick, coward, family attacker)

Yeah Ryan, I called you all those things and you called me a few choice words too. That happens in arguments, especially online arguments.
You can hang on to those kernels till the day you die or you you can shake it off and move on.
Hanging on to shit like that can seriously hobble you in this business. You want to hate me and bad mouth me that's fine. My friends,and all the people I work with know better.
Again
Have a better and less bitter day.

6/22/2008 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(continued from Vincent's blog)LOL! yes I did call you a kiss-ass Vincent!, if you scroll upwards you will Ryan further explained the details of what you said, unfortunately his description of John.K's character matches to a "T" of the negative accounts ive read.

Basically I was taking your word in good faith which I now know is a mistake.

You must be a kiss-ass if John Kricfalusi is horrible to other people and you defend him,but I dont hate you for it ,more pity you, its a shame because he has made some good cartoons.And yes I know you were too "cowardly" (as you like to say constantly) to publish this comment on your blog.Why do you constantly say "coward" and "every day you will look in the mirror and see your cowardly face" ?, thats is a very strange,unique and specific thing to say ,I think we are seeing a little peak of your conscience and how you feel about yourself.

But as I said fighting people on blogs is a waste of time and energy and can drag on forever so I must go.And as I said the truth always comes out in the end.

6/22/2008 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Im still not convinced this is the same person.
But to explain that which doesn't really need explaining.
I think the coward reference is very clear. Posting attacks while hiding your identity is cowardly.

Cowardly isn't a moniker that anyone that knows me would use to describe me.
Check around.

6/22/2008 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

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6/22/2008 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Ryan: That new drawing is funny. Now just be clear, I am just saying that drawing is funny and that's it.

6/22/2008 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

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6/22/2008 06:55:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

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6/22/2008 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

What bug is up your ass inbetweeny ? I like funny drawings and I don't want to be in the middle of this fued.

6/22/2008 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

It's not a fued, it's determining the truth from a range of witness' accounts.

6/22/2008 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Alex, nice about face on the whole calling people names and arguing on the internet thing. Way to follow your own advice.
I'm glad that you guys a perfect human beings with no flaws at all.

You upstanding pillars of the community haven't ever said anything malicious or hurtful. Except of course when you're picking on girls or sniping at others while staying safely out of arms reach.
Must be nice being spo brave perfect. You are going to enjoy a long a fruitful career.
You really look like shining gems.

6/22/2008 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Tweeny: Well by judging your unessecary reaction to my neutral comment, you are obviously not taking this whole thing as civil as you put.

6/22/2008 10:08:00 PM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

As for the about face,although a fan of the Spumco cartoons,my whole life isnt wrapped up and depend on John Kricfalusi like yours seems to be,I dont know about these things first hand,and have limited knowledge, so if I you get a piece of evidence or testimony that exactly matches the others from completely different sources that says he's is some MAJOR asshole, why wouldnt it true? Is the whole industry conspriring together to ruin your beloved Mr K?
And I will investigate first-hand by talking to people face to face eventually anyway.And yes I shouldn't contradict myself and drag on about this, so this will be the last post on the unfortunate matter.

I was taken in by your half-truth with the training thing, maybe because of the warm and fuzzy memories of my own animation training on how much fun it was, and if someone to provide that for free, on the face of it that would be a very good thing.


"You upstanding pillars of the community haven't ever said anything malicious or hurtful. Except of course when you're picking on girls or sniping at others while staying safely out of arms reach.
Must be nice being spo brave perfect. You are going to enjoy a long a fruitful career.
You really look like shining gems."

Again with the fanciful "picking on girls" argument that you have already lost, was i talking about any girls here?.And as for the people on this blog,we don't even know each other, let alone sniped at each other, you are only further convincing me you are a lying manipulator.And we are not talking about being perfect, we are talking about employers treating their employees with a VERY basic level of dignity and respect, is that too much to ask?If people have to be warned about John Kricfalusi and that saves them from having a bad working experience, then so be it,I suspect they are locally in LA anyway-to extend the warning to the internet for those animators who travel and work internationally can only be a good thing. Even if you want to dress it up as "out to get Kricfalusi" sentiment, given how funny some of his cartoons are there is no logic in that argument, no one at all enjoys finding out about this.The whole thing is very sad actually.

6/23/2008 12:59:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

So I'm curious as where these message boards are that filled with ex-employee horror stories.
You keep calling me a liar. and I haven't lied about a thing here.
Never said John was a saint.
I've had better bosses, I've had worse bosses.
The picking girls comment wasn't directed at you.
As to losing that argument.
No I think not. Ryan is still a giant asshole for dragging someone's girlfriend into a situation that really was just between he and John.
Ryan is obviously a pathetic little man.
But please tell me where I can read these horror stories that made you accuse me of lying.

6/23/2008 05:23:00 AM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

Drop the act, discussion is finito.

6/23/2008 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

The message boards?I'd like read them.
Maybe it'll open my eyes.
Or is that more of your made up bull shite?

6/23/2008 09:58:00 AM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

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6/23/2008 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

So, you got nothing.
I thought so.
It was a nice gambit, while it lasted.
The whole good guy open to reason flip flop to righteous indignation because of the make believe overwhelming testimonials. That "you say" you read.
But aren't willing to share.
Nice.

6/23/2008 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Mr Inbetweeny said...

bye now

6/23/2008 11:37:00 AM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

Alright Vincent. I am being suckered here. Suckered into trying to reason with you, AGAIN, which proved to be a huge waste of my time the last time. Will it be any different now? Probably not, but I am stupid enough to try it anyway.

HERE GOES..

So. You are still married and in love with your fantasy dreamland scenario of me picking on Kali. If you noticed, not one person agreed with that scenario on my John/dvd comic post. Or maybe that pitiful Jorge kid did but I'm not counting spineless worm fanboys.


FACT:
TWO of the Johnk drawings mention or depict Kali.



Drawing #1

Kali and John. Yes, Kali is there, in the drawing with John. The MESSAGE of the drawing was that John dates super young girls even though he is a grandpa. Kali was not insulted in the drawing, nor was her name even mentioned. You know why? Because it didn't even matter who 'said girl' was. It wasn't important. The important part was showing John with someone really young. It could have been any young girl. But the current young girl is Kali so that's who is in the picture. Next year he will be with a different young girl, and all of your false Kali defending will have been for nothing.

And for the drawing itself. Kali looks like Kali. She looks normal. I didn't go all hog-wild drawing her with crazy teeth or a big nose or anything like that. There isn't even a hint of caricature on her part. WHY? Because I have nothing against her and the POINT, again, was to show a young girl with an old man. Which is why *John* is caricatured (NOT Kali) to look SUPER old. To get the message across that "John is a creepy old man who dates really young girls."

Can you argue with me just how that drawing is at all malicious towards Kali? And her simply BEING in it, looking normal, is *not* a reason, as much as you would like it to be. So let's hear it.



Drawing #2 (the comic)

Ok so here she isn't even depicted, but her name is mentioned. Her name is mentioned in the PROLOGUE drawing ALONE. The next 6 pages have NOTHING TO DO WITH HER.

So, in the prologue drawing we see the Average Joe customer reading the back and saying "Who the fuck is Kali Fontecchio?"

Was that wrong of me to depict? Would the Average Joe customer NOT be saying or thinking that to themselves? I bet 40% of the people that buy the dvd don't even know who Jerry Beck is. Are you under the impression that everyone in the world knows who Kali is? No. They don't. The only people that do know who she is (aside from the people in her personal life) are spumco fanboys and some of the blogger community. That's less than 1% of all people buying the Popeye DVDs. So, my educated ESTIMATE would have to be that, yes, the remaining 99% will be saying to themselves, "Who is Kali Fontecchio?"

How is that an attack on Kali? Explain. Be specific. Use logic please.

6/23/2008 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Well you are right in that you aren't going to convince me that you weren't being malicious toward her when you included her in the drawing.
You would have to stupid to think that wouldn't hurt her. You are a lot not very nice things, but you don't appear to be stupid.

I wasn't defending her because she is John's girlfriend. I was defending her because she is a friend and deserves better than to be hectored in public over your grievance with John. Give her a couple of more years and she'll be drawing circles around your boney lil'clone drawing ass.

Whether or not she's dating John has no bearing on my friendship. I'm very good friends with a couple of his ex's, and if you picked on them I'd come at you full bore all over again.
And not to be mean, but they all draw way better than you ever will. Just a fact, not at all meant to be hurtful...right?

R:"If you noticed, not one person agreed with that scenario on my John/dvd comic post."

What I noticed was I was arguing with your own batch sycophant fan-boys that worship every cloned morsel that falls from your bum.


R:"Because it didn't even matter who 'said girl' was. It wasn't important. The important part was showing John with someone really young. It could have been any young girl."

So there was no reason to involve her in the attack. You did it because you hoped it would hurt John more if you did. That's obvious.
Had it been a generic girl, after David had sorted out why you were pissed at John, I'd have left it alone. John's a big boy and can take of himself.

R:"Kali looks like Kali. She looks normal. "
Wow how big of you to not make it a hideous caricature of her. I'd think you were a swell guy except that, you only put her in it to be hurtful. Even though she hadn't do anything to YOU at all.

You are entitled to your opinion as to how you think the world works ,with your grand total of 26 years of experience. But I can tell you, as sick as you think it is now, there aren't very many men over forty that wouldn't be happy dating a smart talented girl half their age. Spencer Tracey, Hugh Hefner, Picasso, in fact almost every famous artist you can think of dated younger women. When you get there, you'll see. Though I doubt you'll have the talent level to attract them.

In the mean time try not to write any more checks with your mouth that ass can't cash.

6/23/2008 02:06:00 PM  
Blogger Thad said...

Just remember...

6/23/2008 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger Ricardo Cantoral said...

Thad: Nice. xD

6/23/2008 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Ha indeed

6/23/2008 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger Ryan Khatam said...

Ok, fair response.

It wasn't my intent to hurt Kali in the birthday drawing. It's fine if you don't believe that.

On a separate note I would like to apologize for the post where I called you two-faced and compared you to "thieves and hustlers." That was really stupid sounding and out of line. I'm sorry.


Thad, you are right. :{
Seeya

6/23/2008 09:50:00 PM  
Blogger Vincent Waller said...

Well, I'm surprised and impressed with both of you.

Like I said before, we both said a lot nasty things in the heat of the argument, things that I'm sure neither of us would have said in person.
Now if you take down that lap dog drawing from your blog, you and I won't have anymore negative internet or in person business to take care of.

6/24/2008 08:51:00 AM  
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7/18/2008 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

Or am I too late?

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